A letter to Ibn Khattab from Ahmed
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Ibn Khattab,
In Quran Al-Isra verse 36 Allah says “You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them”
A lot of Hadiths are fabricated ones, including sahih Bukhary/Muslim.
If you have time, please read my reasons.
Ahmed, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim: “Do not write down anything of me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it”
Ibn Saeed Al-Khudry reported that the messenger of God had said, “Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Anyone who wrote anything other than the Quran shall erase it”
Ibn Hanbal; Zayd Ibn Thabit (The Prophet’s closest revelation writer) visited the Khalifa Mu’aawiyah (more than 30 years after the Prophet’s death), and told him a story about the Prophet. Mu’aawiyah liked the story and ordered someone to write it down. But Zayd said. ” the messenger of God ordered us NEVER to write anything of his hadith,”
The famous book, “Ulum Al-Hadith” by Ibn Al-Salah, reports a hadith by Abu Hurayra in which Abu Hurayra said the messenger of God came out to us while we were writing his hadiths and said; “What are you writing?” We said, “Hadiths that we hear from you, messenger of God.” He said, “A book other than the book of God ?!” We said, “Should we talk about you?” He said, Talk about me, that would be fine, but those who will lie will go to Hell. Abu Hurayra said, we collected what we wrote of Hadiths and burned them in fire.
In the famous book, “Taq-yeed Al-Ilm”, Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God was informed that some people are writing his hadiths. He took to the pulpit of the mosque and said, “What are these books that I heard you wrote? I am just a human being. Anyone who has any of these writings should bring it here. Abu Hurayra said we collected all these and burned them in fire.
Ibn Hanbal in his Musnad book, narrates a hadith in which Abdullah Ibn Omar said, “the messenger of God one day came out to us as if he was going to depart us soon and said, “When I depart you (die), hold to the book of God, prohibit what it prohibits and accept as halal what it makes halal.” He never mentioned the Sunna in this hadiths.
Again, in the book “Taq-yeed Al-Ilm”, Abu Saeed Al-Khudry said, ” I asked the messenger of God a permission to write his hadiths, but he refused to give me a permission.”
Clearly the Prophet forbid us from writing his Hadith. Today we see the consequences of not honoring the Prophets words. There are so many versions of every little thing. This is exactly what the Prophet tried to prevent.
My question to you; Are the Hadiths documented in the Sahih books true words of the Prophet?
The number of hadiths collected and attributed to the prophet Muhammed is in the hundreds of thousands, as much as 700,000. As much as 99% of all these hundreds of thousands hadiths are pure lies and fabrications and were rejected by the early Muslim scholars who thought they can figure out which hadith is authentic and which is not. Let us look at some of the famous hadiths collectors and what they collected.
Malik Ibn Anas collected about 500 hadiths in his famous book, “Al-Muwattaa”
Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, collected about 40,000 hadiths, in his famous “Musnad”.He chose these 40,000 hadiths from among 700,000 hadiths. In other words he thought 660,000 hadith were un-proven, lies and/or fabrications and the others may be authentic. That is 94% lies and fabrications.
Bukhary collected about 600,000 hadiths and accepted only 7275 hadiths and considered 592,725 hadiths to be un-proven hadiths, lies and/or fabrications, that is almost 99% of what he collected .
Moslem collected 300,000 hadiths and only accepted 4000 of them, and refused about 296,000. that is almost 99% of these collected hadiths.
Now, is it fair to say Hadiths were fabricated? This will give you an idea of how much corruption entered or tried to enter Islam from the back door. Now we should understand why God promised to preserve, protect and safeguard His book, the ONLY authentic hadith, the ONLY acceptable hadith, the BEST HADITH, the Quran. NO such guarantee was offered to the fabrications and lies of the fabricators and liars who tried to improve on God’s book, and called the Quran incomplete, undetailed and imperfect, and claimed that the Quran needs clarification by another book.
Lots of Hadiths were narrated from Abu Hurayra. He came from Yemen in the seventh year of Hijra and converted to Islam. He stayed in the company of the Prophet Muhammed less than two years. He narrated 5374 hadiths, from this less than two years company, (Compare this with the relatively few hadiths narrated by Aysha, Abu Bakur, or Omar, for example, after very long company of the prophet). Most of his narrated hadiths are called the “Aahad” hadiths, i.e. hadiths only witnessed by one person, this one person was Abu Hurayra himself. Some of the Prophets companions (Sahaba) and Aysha, the Prophet’s wife, accused him of being a liar, telling lies about the prophets just to make up hadiths and gain some status. Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, the second guided Khalifa threatened Abu Hurayra to send him to exile if he does not stop telling hadiths about Muhammed, he did stop until Omar’s assassination then started again. He kept telling hadiths to please the Khalifa of the Muslims then, including the time he lived in the Royal Palace of Mu’aawiyah in Syria. Abu Hurayra told his audience that he is telling them hadiths that if he ever mentioned when Omar was alive, he would be given several lashes.
Please have a look below at the number of Hadiths collected by Abu Hurayra in comparison to Aysha, Abu Baker, Umar and Ali.
Taken from a book entitled Hadith Literature: It’s Origin, Development, & Special Features by Muhammed Zubayr Siddiqui:
1. Abu Hurayra 5374
4. ‘Aysha Umm al-Mu’minin 2210
10. Umar Ibn al-Khattab 537
11. Ali Ibn Abi Talib 536
31. Abu Bakr al-Siddiq 142
First number indicates rank …second number indicates number of Ahadith given.
Compare the numbers of Hadiths given by Abu Baker by that of Abu Hurayra while keeping in mind that Abu Baker accompanied the Prophet for about 23 years, while Abu Hurayra accompanied the Prophet for less than 2 years.
Here are examples of some Sahih Hadiths.
INSULTING WOMEN:
Sahih Bukhary and Moslem;
Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; “If it was not for the Jews (Children of Israel),the food would have never deteriorated and the meat would have never turned bad (rot, decay or spoil). & If it was not for EVE, no WOMAN would have ever cheated on her husband.”
A blasphemy against God and His prophet. Insulting women and dogs is a characteristic feature of Abu Hurayra’s attitude. The Prophet Muhammed could not have said this NON-SENSE. They still however put it in their Sahih (Authentic) Hadiths Books. This is a direct violation of Quran and known facts. Abu Hurayra did not know then, that there is living germs that make the food and meat turn bad even before the creation of the Jews. Quran never blamed EVE for the sin that Adam and Eve committed. Blaming all the women in the world for supposedly a sin that Eve committed is against the basic Quranic principles and against the justice of God, the Most Merciful. See 6:164
SATAN LAUGHS WHEN YOU YAWN:
Sahih Bukhary and Sahih Moslem;
Abu Hurayra said, the prophet said; ” Yawning is from Satan. If you are about to yawn, you should try to stop it as much as possible. If you yawn, Satan will laugh.”
WOMEN, DOGS AND MONKEYS;
Sahih Bukhary 8/102 and Hanbel 4/86
“If a monkey, a black dog or a woman passes infront of a praying person, his prayer is nullified.”
This hadith that was narrated by Abu Hurayra was strongly denied by Aysha, the Prophet’s wife and accused Abu Hurayra of not telling the truth. Despite that this hadiths is still found in the middle of the so called authentic (Sahih) hadiths.
SATAN ENTERS THROUGH YOUR MOUTH;
Abu Hurayra said; the prophet said; “If any of you yawn,, then try your best to stop yawning because Satan will enter (your mouth).”
Another NON-SENSE by Abu Hurayra and accepted as Sahih by Bukhary and Moslem. Our beloved Prophet would not say such non-sense. He told his true followers not to write but the QURAN.
SATAN SLEEPS IN THE BACK OF YOUR THROAT;
Sahih Bukhary and Sahih Moslem;
Abu Hurayra said the prophet said;
“When someone wakes up from sleep, he/she should clean his/her nasopharynx (back of the throat), (by taking the water in the mouth, gurgle with it and bringing it through the nose) three times, because Satan spends the night in the nasopharynx (back of the throat).
Another non-sense by Abu Hurayra accepted by the Sahih books scholars that showed many lies attributed to the Prophet.
SATAN FARTS LOUDLY;
Sahih Moslem and Bukhary;
Abu Hurayra said, the prophet said;
” When the call for prayer is made, SATAN turns around to leave farting very loud so that he would not hear the Azan (call for prayer), When Azan is finished Satan returns back……”
Another Sahih NON-SENSE.
What this has to do with the religion of WORSHIP GOD ALONE ??
MOSES, NAKED;
Sahih Bukhary and Sahih Moslem;
“Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; “The Children of Israel used to take a bath looking at each other while they are completely naked, while Moses used to take his bath by himself alone. They said, why is not Moses taking his bath with us , May be he has large testicles. One day, Moses went to take a bath, he put his clothes on a rock. The rock took his clothes and ran away. Moses ran naked after the rock calling on it to give him his clothes. The Children of Israel looked at the naked Moses and said, By God , he looks all right. Moses took his clothes from the rock and kept beating the rock. ”
Another SAHIH NON-SENSE. What this has to do with our perfect religion, Islam and the prophet Muhammed. It is the kind of shame that you find in the books fabricated by men and accepted by some Muslims as our Islam.
CURSED IS THE WOMAN:
Sahih Bukhary;
Abu Hurayra said; the messenger of God said; “If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refused. Then he slept the night mad at her, she will be cursed by God and the angels until the morning.”
Another NON-SENSE lie listed in the Hadiths books as SAHIH HADITH. This does not even get close the teachings of God in the Quran where the relationship between the man and his wife is built on mutual love and respect.
30:21 “Among His proofs is that He created for you spouses from among yourselves, in order to have tranquility and contentment with each other, and He placed in your hearts LOVE and CARE towards your spouses. In this, there are sufficient proofs for people who THINK.”
LICK YOUR FINGERS AND YOUR PLATES.
Sahih Moslem;
Abu Hurayra said; the messenger of God said; “If any of you eat, then you should lick your fingers because you do not know in which one is the blessings (Baraka).
What this has to do with the teaching of the religion of God Alone, the religion of absoluteness to the one and only God ??!!
SATAN EATS WITH HIS LEFT HAND;
Sahih Moslem;
Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said; ” If any of you eats, you should eat with your right hand, and drink with the right hand, because Satan eats and drinks with his left hand.
NON-SENSE, lie listed as Sahih Hadith. Satan is not of the same physical character like humans. His creation is different than humans according to God in the Quran. Does he eats like humans? Quran mentions nothing about Satan eating and whether he is right handed or left handed. We are not to follow Satan by leaving the Quran and hold to non-sense man- made religion found in fabricated hadith books. God told us that His book is complete, perfect and fully detailed. If you do not believe God is His assertion then it does not matter if you eat with your right hand all your life, Hell will be your abode.
HUSBAND AS A GOD:
Sahih Bukhary;
Abu Hurayra said; the messenger of God said;
“A woman should not fast except with her husband’s permission.”
Again you can see the contradiction to the Quran.
Nowhere in the Quran can you find this kind of order. Every soul is responsible for his/her own deeds. A husband will not carry the sins of his wife if she does not fast or do her prayers. The order for fasting in the Quran goes to both men and women. God holds every person responsible for his/her own deed. God told us repeatedly in the Quran that on the day of Judgment people will always blame somebody else for their fall, but this does not help.see Quran 2:166-167
GOD GOES DOWN EVERY NIGHT;
Sahih Bukhary;
Abu Hurayra said the messenger of God said; ” God descends every night to the lower Heaven in the last third of the night, saying ; who will ask me so I would give him ? who would ask for forgiveness so I forgive him?”
This hadiths is insulting to God, the Messenger of God and the Muslims and has no support from the Quran or common sense. God is teaching us in the Quran that He is with us everywhere. He does not need to move down or up to listen to us. He is closer to us than the Jugular vein in our neck. See Quran 50:16
These are Gods words:
The Quran is not in need of an annex since it is complete: “The word of your Lord is complete in truth and justice” 6:115
The Quran is not in need of an explanatory supplement since it is clear and is not ambiguous: “A.L.R. These are the signs of the clear book” 12:1 “We have made it (the Quran) easy to understand and in your own tongue (language) may you take heed.” 44:58
The Quran is not in need of a correction manual since it is perfect and harbours no contradictions: “A.L.R. This is a book whose verses have been perfected” 11:1
The Quran is not in need of a step by step guide since it is fully detailed: “Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114
Quran is fully detailed and the only source of religious law: “Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt. The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.” 6:114-115
We must not follow the Mullah or Seikh, but ONLY God because God said: “You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them (Quran: 17:36)”
Forget everything else and follow God.
UNQUOTE
This is a comment Ahmed wrote in response to Ibn Khattab’s comments to my blog post titled Dr. Afrasheem and Gubad represent moderate voice of Islam in Maldives
heee heee… poor Ibn. This is why I called you a hypocrite, Ibn. The Quran itself says it is complete and self-sufficient, requiring neither a instruction manual nor further explanatory supplements. Yet you continue to say and believe otherwise. That alone proves you an idiotic deviant and an extremist shithead. That’s why you are the biggest hypocrite, Ibn. You claim you believe, yet you do not.
Ahmed, your comment is pure awesomeness.
Well Hilath its not really from Ahmed given that he copied and pasted it from another site now is it?
I also find it amazing that you are putting on your site an article which says we dont have to follow the ahadith. So tell me hilath if you agree with this deviancy then how do you know how to pray salat given it is not contained in the Quran? How do you know how much Zakat to pay? Do you believe we can beat our wives given the Quran tells us but the ahadith explainin that we cant just hit them?
And while we are at it I pointed out that you lied when you said there is no basis in Islam to say Music is haram? Can you please address that with ayats and hadith to the contrary?
Ibn Kattab,
When you say something, back it up with some solid proof. Research, google, read, do your home work. I dont understand your point here, but if what you are trying to prove here is that we know Salat (how to pray) only through Hadith and not by Quran or anything else, you are totally wrong.
Those who are knowledgeable of the Quran know that there are two sources for the religion of Islam.
(1) The Quran which is COMPLETE, PERFECT and fully details all religious LAW
(2) Religious practices given to Prophet Ibraham and passed on to us generation after generation since the time of Ibraham.
In other words, all religious practices in Islam existed before Muhammad. Muhammad’s sole mission was to deliver the Quran. These are Gods words in Quran:
“Your ONLY mission (O Muhammad) is to deliver (Quran), while it is we who will call them to account.” (Quran 13:40)
“You (O Muhammad) have no duty EXCEPT delivering (Quran).” (Quran 42:48)
“The messenger has no function EXCEPT delivering (Quran)…” (Quran 5:99)
I believe you do not know that the Hadith and Sunna books do not have enough information about how to perform Salat, the number of Rakaat (units), or what to say in them.
NOT a single time, was the prophet Muhammad reported as telling the people; let me tell you how to perform your Salat prayers, or let me tell you the number of Rakaat in the prayers.
Had Muhammad willed or was of his duties to teach the community their prayer and the number of Rakaat, he would have done such that, and in the public arena for everyone to witness it. It never happened.
Because the Prophet Muhammad and the people before him were given the ways to pray, handed down from Ibraham through generations of believers who kept the prayers intact as God promised. God would not have told Muhammad to follow the religion of Ibraham if no one knows or practices that religion.
On the other hand Quran teaches us that ALL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES IN ISLAM, (Salat, Zakat, Fasting, & Hajj) came to us from Ibraham, generation after generation. Ibraham was the founder of Islam as we practice it today, and the one who called us “Muslims”.
Salat came to us through generations after generations who met yearly in Hajj since Ibraham and NONE of them ever came back telling the Muslims to do different Salat for example. This universally accepted Salat does not contradict the Quran and goes along the fact that Salat is older than the Quran. In the third revelation of the Quran, 73:20, God ordered Muhammad and the believers to do “The” Salat and pay “THE” Zakat, not just any Salat or any Zakat.
This “THE” Salat means it is something already known to Muhammad and the believers and not something left for Muhammad or everyone to innovate.
In brief, every movement or say in our Salat came to us as inherited practice from Ibraham who was the first and ONLY prophet to receive rituals of Islam.
God says: “You shall strive in the cause of God as you should. He has blessed you, and imposed no hardship in your religion; the RELIGION OF YOUR FATHER IBRAHAM, Ibraham is the one who named you “Muslims” in the beginning. Thus, the messenger serves as witness among you, just as you serve as a witness among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Salat prayers, give the Zakat charity, and hold fast to God; He is your Lord; the best Lord, and the best supporter.” (Quran 22:78)
“Ibraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a Muslim; he never was an idol-worshiper. The people most worthy of following Ibraham are those who follow him and this prophet (Muhammad), and those who believed. God is the Lord of the believers.” (Quran 3:67-68)
“Then we inspired you (O Muhammad) to follow the religion of Ibraham, never was he an idol-worshiper.” (Quran 16:123)
Logically, if Muhammad was a follower of Ibraham, and we are followers of Muhammad, then we are followers of Ibraham. What did we and Muhammad learn from Ibraham?
The Quran teaches us that we learned ALL THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES of Islam from Ibraham. The whole Arabian society before and during the time of Muhammad had many followers of the religion of Ibraham. Thus Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and the idolators of Quraish used to observe Salat prayers as we can see in Quran 8:33-35.
“…Their SALAT PRAYERS at the shrine were no more than deceit and repulsion. …”
In Sura 73 (Al Muzzammil), few weeks after the revelation of the Quran, 73:20 is telling the Muslims to observe the SALAT and Zakat. Does it make sense that God would issue a commandment to observe something not already known to Muslims?
“……and observe the SALAT and ZAKAT, and lend God a loan of righteousness. Whatever you advance for your souls, you will find at God better and multiplied manifold…..” (Quran 73:20)
In 2:128 we see Ibraham and Ismail implore God to teach them “THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES OF ISLAM”
“As Ibraham raised the foundation of Ka’ba, together with Ismail, they prayed, ‘Our Lord, accept this work from us; You are the Hearer, the Omniscient. Our Lord, and make us Muslims to You and from our descendants let there be a nation of Muslims to you; AND TEACH US HOW TO PRACTICE OUR RELIGIOUS DUTIES, and redeem us; You are the Redeemer, the Merciful’” (Quran 2:127-128)
Here is more proof from Quran that Salat was observed before Muhammad.
“O Mariam, you shall obey your Lord, and shall prostrate and bow down with those who bow down.” (Quran 3:43)
“(Easa said) God has made me blessed wherever I go, and He commanded me to observe the SALAT PRAYERS and ZAKAT charity for as long as I live.” (Quran 19:31)
But the Jews and Christians lost the SALAT PRAYERS, changed it and invented their own.
“Generations came thereafter who LOST the SALAT prayers, and pursued their lusts.” (Quran 19:59)
You may not know, but all the five prayers are mentioned in the Quran, their time is clearly mentioned in several verses and that all the steps we do are also found in the Quran.
FIVE PRAYERS A DAY AND THEIR TIME:
God gave us the times for the Salat (contact Prayers) in the Quran :
(1) The Dawn Prayer (Fajr in Arabic) given in Quran 11:114, 24:58
(2) The Noon Prayer (Zuher in Arabic) , given in Quran 17:78 and 30:18
(3) The Afternoon Prayer (Asr in Arabic), given in Quran 2:238
(4) The sunset Prayer (Maghrib in Arabic), given in Quran 11:114
(5) The Night Prayer (Isha in Arabic), given in Quran 24:58
As you can see from the Quran, God tells us to do our Contact prayers (Salat) at specific times, and then He tells us what these times are.
TAKBEER (Glorification of God), Allahu Akbar:
The Takbeer (glorification of God) by saying Allahu Akbar for example can be found in Quran 17:111, 2:185, 22 :37, 74:3, and 29:45
[17:110-111] ” Say, “Call Him GOD, or call Him the Most Gracious; whichever name you use, to Him belongs the best names.” You shall not utter your Contact Prayers (Salat) too loudly, nor secretly; use a moderate tone. And proclaim: “Praise be to GOD, who has never begotten a son, nor does He have a partner in His kingship, nor does He need any ally out of weakness,” and magnify Him constantly (Kabberho Takbeera).”
There are details in Quran for reading Sura Fateha in Salat, Bowing Down (Rukoo) and Falling Prostrate (Sajood) and also Shahada (Tashahhud).
You may also want to know that even Fasting came to us via IBRAHAM: then it was modified in the Quran.
“You are permitted to have sexual intercourse with your wives during the night of fasting; they are your confidantes, and you are their confidantes. God knew that you used to betray your souls in the past. He has redeemed you, and He has pardoned you. Henceforth, you may have intercourse with them, seeking what God has permitted for you.” part of Quran 2:187
“O you who believe, fasting is decreed for you, AS IT WAS DECREED for those BEFORE you, that you may attain salvation.” Quran 2:183
HAJJ (Pilgrimage): came to us VIA IBRAHAM: Please note that the same verse also mention the SALAT prayers bowing down and prostrating.
“We pointed out to Ibraham the location of the shrine, and directed him to worship NONE beside Me, and to purify My shrine for those who would visit it, those who would retreat therein, and those who would BOW DOWN AND PROSTRATE. And you shall declare (O Ibraham) that the people shall observe HAJJ. They will then come to you , walking or riding, from the farthest places.” (Quran 22:26-27)
Ibn Khattab, if you believe in all those Hadith books, why aren’t you following this Sahih Hadhith (Ahmed, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim: “Do not write down anything of me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it”)
My God show you the right path.
Ahmed, it’s obvious that Abu Huraira and the rest of the infidels like Ibn Khattab have clearly corrupted Islam.
Thank you for bringing all this evidence to our attention. People like you are needed in order to expose these hypocrites like Adhaalath who are only using Hadith and Sunnah to exert their slavery on others.
When I was reading your comment, I was reminded of the miuraaj when Prophet Mohamed met Prophet Moses and Moses told Mohamed to ask God to limit prayers to five. Suddenly I was reminded that Islam is not a new religion, but the religion of Adam, Noah and Abraham, and that all five pillars like namaadhu, zakaaiy and hajju were known to humanity eons before.
It made me blatantly realise that the only reason fundamentalists and extremists now say Hadith and Sunnah are “part of the package of Islam” (when it obviously is not!) is because they want to corrupt Islam and make haram what is halal and make halal what is haram (like violence).
May Allah burn Ibn Khattab and the rest of the hypocrites in the deepest depths of hell along with Aboo Jahulu. May Allah foil the evil plans of Dhajjaalu like Ibn Khattab and Adhaalath.
Amen.
Good points.. But didn’t we all already know this?
“I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them”
The very fact that these fundies do not use common sense or their brains cuts them off from any logical reasoning from others.
They are happy living in their imaginary world of a CIA conspiracy and global jehad.
Behold, Ibn Khattab. Your service to me has raised what I needed. You will serve me by corrupting Islam further with your mongrel dogs and sock puppets;- and in consequence, build up an army of those who see the truth of your kind.
You may try to bastardize the national identity with your forced homosexualisation drives and your assorted list of crimes against the future inheritors of the State; but there comes a time when the oppressed will fight back. You may hide behind your smug “Islam will never fall”. But I know otherwise – I know exactly what happened in Islamic Iberia. History will repeat itself.
Ahmed,
Which translation of the Quran are you using? Or do you know Arabic? Point me to your source. Just curious…
Fulaan,
My source is Quran. If you can’t understand Qur’anic Arabic or Classical Arabic, you can try any authentic translation. There may be different translations with different set of words/emphasis on the same verse. But always be very careful about what appears within (brackets) because it is the translators addition to the verse, not God’s words.
Here are some examples of translations:
Surat Al-’Isrā’ (The Night Journey) 17: Ayat: 36
وَلاَ تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ إِنَّ السَّمْعَ وَالْبَصَرَ وَالْفُؤَادَ كُلُّ أُولـئِكَ كَانَ عَنْهُ مَسْؤُولاً
(Wala taqfu ma laysa laka bihi AAilmun inna alssamAAa waalbasara waalfuada kullu olaika kana AAanhu masoolan)
Yusuf Ali Translation: “And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning)”
M. Asad Translation: “And never concern thyself with anything of which thou hast no knowledge: verily, [thy] hearing and sight and heart – all of them – will be called to account for it [on Judgment Day]!”
M. Picktall Translation: “(O man), follow not that whereof thou hast no knowledge. Lo! the hearing and the sight and the heart–of each of these it will be asked”
Muhsin Khan Translation: “And follow not that of which you have no knowledge Verily! The hearing, and the sight, and the heart, of each of those you will be questioned (by Allah)”
In simple English it means “You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them”
Ahmed,
you are saying that nothing passed down from the Prophet(SAW) can be taken as reliable, yet that passed down from Ibrahim(AS) who lived much earlier is reliable, even though it would have had to been passed along through the same people at some stage, if what you said was true.
But we all know it is not true. Who passed it to the first Muslims at the time of the Prophet(SAW) for example. Who told the Prophet(SAW) how to pray?
The Quranites are deviants and its clearly shown by much of what you write, using distorted translations of the Quran to suit what you are saying. Also it seems you people seem to believe we can drink alcohol given that the Quran only forbids it while praying. (of course in another part it forbids it completely, yet you need the ahadith to tell which ayat came before the other).
Yaamyn,
Are you saying its common sense to reject all the ahadith of the Prophet(SAW) like Ahmed is saying? As I have pointed out to you before Allah orders us not to insult Muslims with nicknames, yet why do you being a Muslim just persist? Do you think Allah didn’t mean what He said?
Shadowrunner,
Keep on dreaming.
“CURSED IS THE WOMAN:
Sahih Bukhary;
Abu Hurayra said; the messenger of God said; “If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refused. Then he slept the night mad at her, she will be cursed by God and the angels until the morning.”
This is used by pedo haabees who forcibly marry underage girls to force sex.
Wow. This site has just become the best thing on the internet.
Thank you Hilath. And thank you even more Ahmed.
People like Ibn Khattab will keep on talkin shit, providing no real substance to the argument. All he has done here to reject what Ahmed has argued for backed with authority, is to provide questions and make random statements with no authority or backing. If you cannot contribute to the argument, why dont you get lost man. just a thought.
Ibn Khattab is already defeated. When unable to counter an argument, he then claims debate is unislamic.
I will condemn his version Islam to a gruesome, televised end; in the horror of a death camp.
The Jews, hundreds of years after Moses’s death created Mishnah (hadith, sayings) and Gemarrah (sunna, Actions) and uphold them and the invented laws in them rather than the TORAH (revealed word of God).
In the city of Nicene 300 years after the death of Jesus, the concept of Trinity was CREATED, and is now the primary source of a Christian’s belief in defiance of the Bible which advocates the absolute worship of God Alone.
The Muslims 150- 200 years after the death of Muhammed CREATED another source of their religion with the Quran, “Hadith and Sunnah”, falsely attributed to the prophet Muhammed, and in defiance of the Quran. Sadly today a lot of Muslims have discarded the Quran in favor of Hadith and Sunnah.
God, the MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL decided that those who will reject His complete book Quran and go look for other sources for fabricated guidance will suffer in this life and in the HEREAFTER by their choice. God never put any hardship on the believers, but the scholars did, they invented their own laws in defiance of God, to regulate everything from the side of bed you sleep on, to which foot should step in the house, to what to do with a fly in your soup, to what to say when having intercourse with your spouse.
God gave you ears, eyes and brain and gave you his book. You read it. There are so many authentic translations. You dont need to follow fabricated versions of these new generation Sheikhs.
Those who believe God and believe that His book is COMPLETE, PERFECT AND FULLY DETAILED, will have everything easy for them as God promised, See 10:62-64, 16:97 while those who could not believe God and have been seeking other sources than the Quran will have all the hardship of this life and the life to come.
Allah Said: “If only the people of the scripture believe and lead a righteous life, we will then remit their sins, and admit them into gardens of bliss. If only they would uphold the TORAH, and the GOSPEL, and what is sent down to them herein (QURAN) from their Lord, they would be showered with blessings from above them and from beneath their feet. Some of them are righteous, but MANY of them are evil-doers.” (Al-Ma’idah, verse 65, 66)
God bless you all.
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Ibn Khattab,
I have a few more free days so lets debate this a bit further more.
First let me make it very clear, my argument is not about whether Muslims must obey the messenger or not. I have no argument over that, we all must obey him. I agree with you. What ever the Prophet said (only what HE SAID, not what the Mullah, Sheikh, Imam thinks he said) we have to obey. Lets go into some details. God mentioned Muhammed by name in the Quran four times. In 3:144, 33:40, 47:2 and 48:29. How many times did God tell us to “Obey the messenger”? There are more than 25 times in the Quran, where God ordered us to obey the messenger. Not a single time did God say “Obey Muhammed” Is this a co-incidnce or a deliberate order? We know that everything in God’s world is deliberate, nothing is a co-incidence.
My argument is about the authenticity of the Hadhith books. So please dont twist the real issue here. I am a practicing Muslim, and I believe you are too. So lets talk like civilized people, with some tolerance and respect. No point calling people Quranites or Sunnaites. We cant call Hilath or anybody a kaafir. Only God knows whats in other peoples hearts, and only God knows who is right and who is wrong. Lets not play the role of God and the judgement day here and declare certain people Muslims and other Kaafirs. Lets treat the “I” syndrome and the belief that only “I” am right and everybody else is wrong. If you have the right to believe in the way you do, and practice Islam or any other religion the way you feel is right, I guess I have the right to believe in the things I do too and practice Islam the way I believe and see as right and authentic. Deeds are not transferrable. So lets stop worrying about what another person may or may not do. The argument is nothing else other than the authenticity of Sahih Hadhith books.
In my opinion obeying Prophet Muahammad is obeying the book Quran, which came through him, which we heard from his mouth. Let me give you some examples from Quran. In Quran God almightly clearly says that the Prophet has no duty other than delivering Quran. There is no mention of any Hadith books thats he must deliver. I notice you quote translations from Yusuf Ali, so let me quote verses of Quran from Yusuf Ali’s translation too.
5:99 “The Messenger’s duty is but to proclaim (the message). But Allah knoweth all that ye reveal and ye conceal”
In simple English it means, The messenger has NO function EXCEPT delivery of the message (Quran)
13:40 “Whether We shall show thee (within thy life-time) part of what we promised them or take to ourselves thy soul (before it is all accomplished),- thy duty is to make (the Message) reach them: it is our part to call them to account”
Meaning; Your ONLY duty is delivering, we will call them to account.
42:48 “If then they run away, We have not sent thee as a guard over them. Thy duty is but to convey (the Message). And truly, when We give man a taste of a Mercy from Ourselves, he doth exult thereat, but when some ill happens to him, on account of the deeds which his hands have sent forth, truly then is man ungrateful”
In short again it means; You have NO duty EXCEPT DELIVERING the message.
Contrary to what you believe, as far as I know, Quran was written while the prophet was living, although not into one book. But whoever wrote or tried to write Hadith, was asked to burn or destroy it because the Prophet ordered to do so. This is the main difference between Quran and Hadeeth books. The second difference is, in Quran, in his own words, Allah has prommised to safe guard his book till the end of the world. He never made the same promise for any Hadith books. Thats the second most important difference.
The four guided Khalifas who ruled the Muslim Umma after the death of the Prophet Muhammed, respected the order of the Prophet and prohibited the writing and collection of Hadiths. They did believe God in his book and accepted the commandment of the Prophet.
Abu Bakr at one point was not sure whether to keep what he knows of hadiths or not. He had collected 500 Hadiths during very long companionship of the Prophet Muhammed, but he could not sleep the night until he burned them. Omar Ibn Al-Khattab insisted on destroying the Hadiths collected by his son Abdullah. Islamic history mentioned the story of Omar Ibn Al-Khattab restraining four of the Prophet’s companions because of their insistence on telling Hadiths, these were Ibn Masoud, Abu Al-Dardaa, Abu Masoud Al-Anssary and Abu Tharr Al-Ghaffary. Omar called Abu Hurayra a liar and threatened to send him back to Yemen where he came from if he does not stop telling these lies about the prophet Muhammed. He stopped until Omar died then started again.
Ali Ibn Abu Talib, the fourth Khalifa in one of his speeches said, “I urge all those who have writing taken from the messenger of God to go home and erase it. The people before you were annihilated because they followed the Hadiths of their scholars and left the book of their Lord.” (Sunan Al-Daramy)
As for the notion that Hadiths were written as early as the Prophet’s time, this is historically correct but the prophet himself and those who ruled after him condemned these writings and looked at those who wrote these Hadiths with disgrace. The hadiths books mentioned that the Prophet Muhammed burned the collected hadiths, and was very angry at people making “another book with the book of Allah.” Abu Baker and Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, were also reported to burn the Hadiths collections.
This prohibition of hadiths was continued until Omar Ibn Abdel-Aziz permitted the writing of Hadiths and Sunna, then many books and (Kararees) appeared containing Hadiths, e.g. Ibn Greeg, Malik Ibn Anas, Mohammed Ibn Is’haq. The most famous from among these were the book of Malik Ibn Anas, (Al-Muwattaa). that had about 500 Hadiths. At the end of the second century the books known as (Masaned) appeared, e.g. the Masnad of Ahmed Ibn Hanbal that has about 40,000 Hadiths. In the first half of the third century the famous six books of hadiths appeared and these are the books used by many of the scholars these days. 1- Sahih Bukhary. 2- Sahih Moslem. 3- Sunan Abu Daoud. 4-Sunan Al-Termethy. 5-Sunan Al-Nesaay. 6- Sunan Ibn Mageh.
In these books a new religion was written that dominated over the Quran despite the claim for the opposite. In writing these books, the authors did not care if the hadiths they are writing contradict the Quran or the other Hadiths or simple common sense.
There are some clear contradictions in Hadhith’s which is good evidence that the Prophet would not have said it. Let me give you few confusing examples from Sahih Hadhith books.
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 159:
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
The Prophet performed ablution by washing the body parts only once.
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 160:
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Zaid:
The Prophet performed ablution by washing the body parts twice.
Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 196:
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Zaid:
Once Allah’s Apostle came to us and we brought out water for him in a brass pot. He performed ablution thus: He washed his face thrice, and his forearms to the elbows twice, then passed his wet hands lightly over the head from front to rear and brought them to front again and washed his feet (up to the ankles).
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Abu Hurayra said, the messenger of God said, “Do not drink while standing up, if someone forgot and did it, he should vomit what he drank.” (Sahih Moslem)
Ibn Abbas said, “The messenger of God drank from the water of Zamzam while standing up….” (Sahih Moslem)
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In Bukhary, vol.1:
“There will not be on the surface of Earth after one hundred years, one newborn (or created) human being.”
Now after about 1400 years this hadith did not happen. The Prophet Muhammed could not say such a lie, but people who believe in falsehood cannot help but believe in it and put it in a book and call it authentic (Sahih).
Let me repeat to you clear historical facts.
Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, collected about 40,000 hadiths, in his famous “Musnad”. He chose these 40,000 hadiths from among 700,000 hadiths. In other words he thought 660,000 hadith were un-proven, lies and/or fabrications and the others may be authentic. That is 94% lies and fabrications.
Bukhary collected about 600,000 hadiths and accepted only 7275 hadiths and considered 592,725 hadiths to be un-proven hadiths, lies and/or fabrications, that is almost 99% of what he collected.
Moslem collected 300,000 hadiths and only accepted 4000 of them, and refused about 296,000. that is almost 99% of these collected hadiths.
Now, is it fair to say Hadiths were fabricated?
This happened 150 to 200 years after Prophet’s death. How on Earth do you differentiate authentic Hadhith’s from false ones with 100% accuracy? Allah never promised to safe guard Hadhith’s like he promised to safe guard Quran.
Clearly there are contradictions and fabrications in Hadhith books and there are lots of reason to question its authenticity.
May God bless us all.
Excellent study and statistics. Most of us seem to be forgetting something very much more fundamental than the hadith and the wahabi arguments.
Islam was prescribed not only for humans but for jins as well. Now, how common are humans and jins? Think about it. One is made from clay and the other made from smokeless fire.
So I wonder if the jins grow bears and cut their trousers! If they do, they might need to call 119 because their life-form (borrowed term from Startrek) seems to be smokeless fire (blue flame?)!
i affirm with the commentary given by Ahmed.
if aysha, umar, and abu bakr has declared that Abu Hurayra was a liar, then there is no need for any other proof. Those who ascribe lies to the prophet Muhammad s.a.w, their words cannot be accepted, nor shall any testimony from them be accepted. However, Allah sw is the all knowing.
http://www.al-islam.org/abu-hurayra/16.htm
i researched a bit more and found contradictory views between those of the sunni’s and shi’a. the sunni ppl hold Abu Hurayra in much esteem while those of the shi’a have slandered Abu Hurayra.
The sunni hadhiths contained within Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, can be traced back to Prophet Muhammed saw without the chain of relators being broken whereas the shi’a hadhiths are in contradiction. And Abu Hurayra (may allah be pleased with him) was not a liar! may allah be a witness to his honesty.
And Allah sw knows best, and by Allah, in whose hand my soul is, I ask for his guidance and his mercy for doubting and for creating doubt, and for his punishment on those who mislead others in their ignorance. Aameen.
Those who write these sorts of articles, should first and foremost learn Islam! do not open your mouths and put your ink on paper without knowing religion. DO NOT try to confuse the people!
Allah sw curse those who mislead others in their ignorance. Aameen
bismillah arahmaan, ah’raheem, in the name of allah.
i will be using plain english here. may allah guide you all. aameen
regarding the article above:
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Fundamentalist – A person who has the fundamental knowledge, rather basic knowledge in a particular field. particularly in religion (also known as extremists nowadays)
Whats wrong with being a fundamentalist?
Nothing :) Suppose you want to do something right, for example, do well in your math or english test, you would need to know the basics, the fundamentals of the subject. if you don’t know, would you know how to do your exam well?
when it comes to religion, if its a fundamentalist, then most of the people think ‘OH NO!!’ but a fundamentalist in religion is much the same as any other field. He/She is someone who knows the basics of the religion.
The Religious fundamentalist, nowadays called as extremists.
Oh muslims! whats wrong with being an extremist? Be proud of it. By Allah, any muslim extremist is indeed extremely caring, merciful, kind, honest and obiedient to Allah and the muslim community. And an extreme adversary to evil, to sins and extremely against those who corrupt and to those who make bid’ah etc.
Do not be afraid of this western word. It is not a threat! but a phrase we should be proud of! We are extremists by Allah, in the way of Allah. Allah forgive us and guide us!
“and it was interesting to see at least one Muslim who doesn’t twist Islam and claim music, photography, art, movies and all other kinds of human creativity is haram”
Whoever said human creativity is haram? :) Human creativity is encouraged in Islam. As long as it doesn’t go out of the boundaries of Islam. Nowadays, photographers take nude pictures, painters paint nude pictures, musicians make songs advertising illegal sex and other evil acts movies portray extra-marital affairs and sex, not to mention making what is illegal look nice, story books describe sexual activities in detail, all in the name of Creativity. isn’t that nice? :)
yes indeed! all in the name of creativity. they are all HARAM, by ALLAH, they are haram to watch, to make, to live on. Curse the eyes, the ears, the hearts, and the hands that experienced what is out of the boundaries of Allahs commands. but if its in the boundaries, by All means, go ahead enjoy what allah sw has given you
psychologists have proven that selected stories read to children had a significant and permanent effect on the children! there is a saying, you are what you eat, what you read, what you see!
so if you involve yourself in junky stuff you become junky! and so Allah sw has decreed to lower your gaze, to not take heed of things that are illegal.
Do you not fear for for the day when Allah sw will make you accountable for what you looked at, what you read, what you listened to, and whatever you did?
“”I bet if these extremists come on a live debate with Afrasheem and Gubad, their extremist viewpoints will be easily defeated. They won’t have anything to argue with.””
by Allah, do not bet on things, Allah has indeed made betting prohibited. why do you want to do things that Allah has made forbidden?? But even I would like to see Afrasheem and Gubad trying to bring evidence to the table when the respected scholars from Adaalath debate with them. And I’m sure by Allah, that even if Adaalath offers to host these debates, Afrasheem and Gubad will never ever answer them, like the current DRP President Maumoon Abdul Gayyoom, who refused their invitation.
muslim” – this is for u :)
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“”Ibn Khattab is misunderstood. It never says music is haram in the quran. What others say quoting Prophet MOhamed(saw) is second hand> I will follow the quran and look upon all other issues to common sense based upon knowledge!””
Bismillah Ah’rahmaan, Ah’raheem. In the name of Allah
May Allah save me from the ill of this comment. Aameen.
True, it never said music is haram! Indeed!!
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91).
It means what is says! And i say the same to you. You will permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments! you are among the ummah of the rasool muhammad s.a.w. By ALLAH in whose hand my soul is, I swear it means what it says.
Look you are being foolish now if you don’t understand. it really means that you will permit something. meaning it wasn’t permitted before. if you don’t understand this, then I’d advise you to go and study English again. seriously my ‘muslim’ brethren. you have to go to school again :)
Following the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammed is part of following and obeying the Qur’an Allah has revealed to us! Are you, deaf, blind and dumb?? If you aren’t then surely you must have seen, heard and read the verses of Allah commanding you to follow the prophet muhammed
Look brother, if you discard these verses which says to obey the prophet muhammed and you do not accept it, then you are not following Qur’an and you are not following the religion of Allah s.w.
It makes you eligible for God’s wrath and punishment on you.
May Allah Guide you. Aameen
to Hoozahipocraitden – this is for you :)
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“do you deny what the Quran says about it being revealed to humanity as the perfect book, without the need for annotations, footnotes, and explanatory notes.”
Bismillah Ah’rahmaan, ah raheem, in the name of Allah!
now now my dear brother in islam! do not add to Qur’an and do not attribute anything to Qur’an that you do not know of. Allah s.w has stated, not the Qur’an mind you, says that:
“This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.”
It doesn’t say anything like, that Quran is revealed to humanity as the perfect book without need for annotations, footnotes and explanatory notes. I challenge you oh Hoozahipocraitden to bring any verse, that contradicts my saying.
No doubt, the Qur’an is a miracle of Allah s.w. No one can bring anything like Qur’an into existence, save by Allahs will. But Allah s.w. states in the Qur’an that Allah s.w. revealed the qur’an in parts so that the prophet may teach it to the believers. I will quote the translation here later.
So, if the prophets sunnah wasn’t needed as an explanation, then by Allah, God wouldn’t have decided to let the prophet teach the people Qur’an in parts, so that he may clarify what it means.
Now my dear brother, another example I will illustrate here.
‘…so now associate with them and seek what Allah hath ordained for you and eat and drink until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast till the night appears…’ Surah Al-Baqara, verse 187.
Tell me dear brother :) have you tried to distinguish a black thread from a white thread in the dark, in the night, in the dead of the night with no light? Will you be successful? No, by Allah, as much as you have been speaking in figurative language to Ibn Khathab, Allah didn’t clearly state what he means by the verse! If Allahs messenger Prophet muhammed didn’t clarify it FOR you, then would you know when to start and break your fast?
Now don’t tell me you don’t fast? that you fast in the reverse time? where did you learn to fast if you did it right? from your parents? from your school? it all came from the sunnah of Allahs messenger. you have lost my dear brother!
and as Ibn Khathab repeatedly asked you there is no indication in Qur’an whatsoever to the times of the prayer, to the amount of rak’ah, nor the acts during the prayer. neither how to perform ablusion.
so if you do perform ablusion and pray to Allah s.w, don’t tell me that it was not from the prophet muhammads sunnah! but i am sorry to say now i clearly have doubts that you even pray :)
“It’s true what you said though: I really do have no arguments”
and you claim, you have no argument? then why do you try to fight with someone who is showing you the right path. Come now man! don’t be stupid, if someone is showing you the right path its better to go the right path. he’s not going to get anything by you doing something wrong or doing something right. it’l only help you. do not be among those whom Allah misguided :)
Oh Hoozahipocraitden, i challenge you! if you are anything worth of your foolish words, then disprove anything i have said here. But I assure by Allah, you will not be able to do anything but insult me :) but i will not mind your insults. you are dumb, deaf and blind in the path of Allah
to Invisible Pink Hollow Unicorn > this is for you!
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bismillaah ah’rahman, ah’raheem, in the name of Allah
Pink?? Hollow?? Unicorn?? now i’m sure you’re a lady!
and yes, you’re invisible, alhamdhulilaah, i do not have to see you! pink? Allah Ya’lam, Hollow? yes indeed! those who do not believe in Allah are hollow and they wonder what they are doing in this world. Unicorn? probably! those who don’t believe in Allah are lower than the rest of the creation of Allah. so you have a pretty good idea where you stand! Masha Allah :)
“Mohamed, you are right. All religious people including yourself are fundamentalists and extremists which is why all religions are the root of all evil.
First of all, Mohamed wasn’t supportive of your saying :) he was shocked at what Hilath was saying. Second, not all people who are religious are fundamentalists and extremists! to be a fundamentalist, you should know religion. most people don’t even know religion to begin with :)
“The sooner we get rid of religions the better for humanity. Or in the case of Maldives, the sooner we can separate religion from government and politics, the better for Maldives society”
The religions of this world are rooted to the world. The world will not exist without religion. Because, people have a desire to know how, why they came into this world. only aethists have no care for why they live. because they live only to enjoy this life :) i’m sure you’re one of them, and you’re annoyed by the limitations religion has put on your life. Shame really that you were born in Maldives! Religion is the way of life, you better understand it contains how Allah s.w wants the world to work. He could make it happen see, but Allah wants to examine us. So.. you’re doing pretty well :) Good luck
to Ahmed > this is for you
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Bismillah Ah Rahman Ah Raheem
Maaaaan! you shouldn’t try to confuse people ok? I mean, most of the Maldivians are Sunni’s. You shouldn’t try to confuse us with Shi’a lies :) If you have any proof then bring out your proof, with chains of narrators directly related to the Prophet Muhammed and his companions.
If the chains of narrations you bring are not upto the grading of the scholars of Sunni, do not try to make us confused. we don’t accept them as sound (in other words – sahih) may allah be merciful on you! Allah s.w. protects his religion. And those who meddle with it, will only find more confusion in their lives.
Those who attribute lies to the prophet Muhammed and his companions, may Allah judge them severly. Aameen. Have you no fear for Allah?! He is the most merciful, the most compassionate! but do not forget, he is also the most severe in punishing! A’uzu Billah!
LOL @ Shieks – this one is for you!
Bismillah Ah Rahman, Ah Raheem
Do not call Saudi Arabia as holy. Only Makkah and Madinah, are holy cities. Saudi Arabia is more or less like Maldives :) if you go to Riyaadh, you would see nothing short of what you’d expect in a western country. Only, some restrictions are there. But, hey, you get that everywhere!!
Even Maldives was under a dictatorship, the kingdom that runs in Saudi Arabia is of the descendance of a conqueror named Abdul-Aziz bin Saud. Their kingdom has a way of doing things similar to that of our former president Maumoon Abdul Gayyoom. Did you not hear that the King of Saudi jailed the Imam of the Holy Mosque of Makkah just because he prayed that the Americans be engulfed in Allahs punishment and azaab?
oh, did you not hear about that then? Allah s.w granted his prayer true :)
yesssss, i knw, you’d just say its a natural disaster :) no worries, i can understand.
so likewise, almost all of what is published in Saudi is censored. hope you got that right? you understood me? are we going on the same boat? good, lets move on!
may allah s.w. show you guidance, aameen :)
Ibn Khathab – this my brother is for you :)
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Bismillah Ah Rahman, Ah Raheem.
Do not falter in the path of Allah, do not be sad and do not grieve over the people who Allah misguided. Allah s.w has said to the prophet in the Qur’an in Al-Baqara surah, that the prophet will not be questioned about the inmates of Hell.
By Allah, we who know anything of Islam and any saying of the prophet should try to teach and transmit them to those who do not know. Do not be worried about the accusations that the “Hoozahipocraitden” put on you of lying. Allah s.w has tested Allahs messengers much in the same way. Those who speak the truth were always regarded liars.
I will be a witness to your noble efforts by Allah. And Allah is your witness, and you require no other. May Allah s.w forgive them and show them mercy. But most people nowadays are just ignorant. A’uzu Billah
Have faith, do not falter. Allah will guide us to salvation Insha Allah. Verily the life of this world is temporary. And when Allah s.w turns the world over on the Last Day, insha Allah, we will be the ones smiling without despair. Aameen :)
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I don’t know how stupid your are ? Don’t you know “ALLAH” says in the Qura’n follow “ALLAH” and follow Rasul. If you don’t follow the hadith how you will learn the sunnah and how you will implement in your life. Where is the Quar’n says how to pray and how many times. How you will learn it must be from Sunna. Don’t try to contradict Islam. Islam and it’s practic completely based upon the Qura’n and Sunna. Try to be a realistic and understand islam properly